Posts by twice shy

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List of Trademark Applications made by the Watchtower (JW.ORG was Refused!)

by Wild_Thing in

tl;dr: jw.org and jw library is not trademarked because the us patent office keeps refusing their application.

i don't think either will ever be trademarked, as their design currently stands.

jw rank & file can make all the cheap promotional crap they want and the watchtower can't do a thing about it (legally anyway.).

I hope I'm not stumbling you, she said as we sipped drinks at the track...I

by MissFit in

i have a sweet jw friend.

she is elderly and had heart problems and is hard of hearing.. she is a tiny thing and very loving.

she is a convert and had been "in" for around 20 years.. she came "in "after her divorce.. we started hanging out together a couple years ago when i called her for a ride to the meetings.. .

twice shy

some how we started completely skipping Sunday meetings and going straight to the lunch and margaritas. We tried going to the meetings but she would get stressed and start getting chest pains.

Perhaps she knows the TTAT. Something about it is surely bothering her if she gets sick and stressed just getting dressed. I'm glad she has you. I'm glad you have each other.

Have a pomegranate margarita for me next time., please.

Hopefully you will stumble her into being awakened.

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is going to a strip club a disfellowshipping offense?

by monis1 in

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friends

i'm pretty sure it is, just wanted to confirm.

this would be someone who went once and only looked....

twice shy

Yes you can, but consider it Personal warfare; Yours. Confession on a need to know basis only. It's that person's business not anyone elses.

If ever called on it, be sure to reassure them you had to witness at their place of employment as they sleep during unconventional hours.

As Paul admonished, become all things to all people. Just try and keep yourself clean.

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Ensure that you dont appear to be Negative , Unhappy or Bitter

by stuckinarut2 in

just a quick thought.... we know that the org loves to paint all those who fade or leave as "negative, bitter and unhappy"...because of course "the truth is the happiest way to live".

so, never allow ourselves to be that way when talking with witnesses, or family members still in.. show them that we are happy, our lives are fulfilled and positive.. then they have no ammunition.

also, it helps other doubters to see that there is life in the world beyond the org..

It's still a catch 22. If you were in and unhappy about a particular event you would get " unforseen occurences befall us all" speech. If you are out it's because you are in satan's world and don't have GOD's spirit. Another Double standard.

I do me. Somedays are happier than others, but all days are happier than when I was being brainwashed daily and in constant flux.

No day is perfect. Each day (not religious standing) comes with it's own anxieties, but being out comes with a free joy that can't be compared to anything felt in the so-called truth.

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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?

by FL_Panthers in

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as the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..

twice shy

Disfellowshipping people like they can read hearts and yet, they never quote that the apostle Matthew was a tax collector while they quote scripture to justify their view point..

Lack of Love shown

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JUSTICE #1 - Loving Marriage Counselors

by Amazing in

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"wise and loving marriage counselors - preserving the sanctity of god's marital arrangement.

[note: i made some editorial adjustments, grammatical improvements, and formatting changes from the original post, but it is essentially unchanged.].

we had a couple in our kingdom hall who were engaged to be married.

twice shy

@amazing- The whole judicial process can be used to twist things in fanciful ways and thus ruin the lives of good people. It seems there is plenty of blame to pass around: those at the top of the organization set the tone for its intolerant & fear-mongering ways (i.e., "fear of demons" in this case), local elders who carry out what seems to be witch-hunting (in some cases), and of course the rank and file JW's who gossip and further damage reputations without impunity.

If you are still around. Thia is a very unfortunate story, but it too, rings true of the manipulative, think they are qualified to direct and guide people's lives elders. The pathetic and sad hating that goes on when you see the envy and jealousy run rampant in what is supposed to be GOD's house.

Yet, more often then not this seems to be the rule at the halls and not the exception.

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JUSTICE #15 - Parking Lot DFing

by Amazing in

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parking lot disfellowshipping .

[i have changed the sequence of the justice series.

i will post the other titles later.].

twice shy

Amazing story that rings all too true. So sad, that Elders don't know how to think for themselves and need to get direction from yet another man.

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JUSTICE #13 - Praying to the Devil!

by Amazing in

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a little history: prior to 1971, the jw congregation government was organized around the congregation servant (cs).

he was considered the sole elder, having attained spiritual maturity, and qualified to serve.

our cs was considered a highly respected elder in the region.

twice shy

Gopher-The whole judicial process can be used to twist things in fanciful ways and thus ruin the lives of good people. It seems there is plenty of blame to pass around: those at the top of the organization set the tone for its intolerant & fear-mongering ways (i.e., "fear of demons" in this case), local elders who carry out what seems to be witch-hunting (in some cases), and of course the rank and file JW's who gossip and further damage reputations without impunity.

I lived this!!!

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Thank you for this forum! Without it I couldn't sit through the meetings!

by stuckinarut2 in

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the only way i can sit through the meetings is due to having my tablet and connection to this forum!.

since awakening, i can't believe how much i cringe each and every meeting when i hear all the propaganda and garbage spewed out from the bible and the society!.

i only cope by venting on here.. (plus it is so easy when sitting at the back of the hall or on the sound control box... hahaha).

twice shy

stuckin- so easy when sitting at the back of the hall or on the sound control box... Hahaha

There seems to be a lot of that going around. Before we left the brother in the back was so busy on his ipad he forgot to turn on the mics several times.

The technolgy phase is sweeping the halls. I still have watchtowers where they said no and how wordly the internet was.

Oh, and my favorite: how materialistic it would be to have to have the latest technology and the time that learning how to use it would take away from spiritual things. UGHHHH!

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Expect more Crazy as JW.ORG trims the fat and fills the coffers.

by donuthole in

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when rutherford assumed the presidency of the watchtower society he instituted series of sweeping changes to the teachings and practices of the bible students.

some of these changes were at complete odds with what had been taught previously.

a key example was the elevation of the watchtower society as "god's visible organization on earth".

twice shy

donuthole-Their gamebook in the past has been to float ideas out in talks and the literature to start prepping the religion prior to making the chanes.

This is still their gamebook. They start prepping their minds about 8-6months before the new change will be presented and made policy. Ex. all the talks earlier ths year about being removed as an elder before the new power to the CO was given.

Vidiot- by rebranding the WTS as an "e-religion" to make the loyalists think they're doing something new and exciting, whilst further hard-lining the Org's policies

So, sad that they look at it from a one sided point of view: "Jehovah is speeding up the preaching work" instead of noticing that the whole entire world is moving into a new era.

On a different note; your name wouldn't be short for the Village Idiot would it? LOL! Hilarious!

one eyed joe- how arrogant are we to believe the end will come in our lifetime?

It could happen. Who really knows, but we do know that "fairy tales can come true , it can happen to you

If you're young at heart. For it's hard, you will find, to be narrow of mind

If you're young at heart.

You can go to extremes with impossible schemes.
You can laugh when your dreams fall apart at the seams.
And life gets more exciting with each passing day.
And love is either in your heart, or on it's way.

Don't you know that it's worth every treasure on earth
To be young at heart.
For as rich as you are, it's much better by far
To be young at heart.

And if you should survive to 105,
Look at all you'll derive out of being alive!
And here is the best part, you have a head start
If you are among the very young at heart.

Look at all you'll derive out of being alive!
And here is the best part, you have a head start
If you are among the very young at heart.

Good thing my heart and mind are still healthy because I gave a huge portion of my youth to the WTBT$$$. Just don't move as fast as I did going door to door in the hot a$$$ sun.

Keep hope alive